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100 Hot Comics #35: Incredible Hulk #180, Cameo 1st Wolverine

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Why Incredible Hulk 180 is a Hot Comic

2024 MARKET REPORT: GOOD PRICES IN HIGH GRADE, SELLING OFF BELOW

No record sales above 8.0 this year, but close to the pandemic highs.

Everything else is dropping in price.

2023 MARKET REPORT: TURNS OUT IT WASN'T

Prices have corrected, hard, on most Bronze Age comic books.

I felt Hulk #180 was over-heated. The market can't make up its mind whether this is worth chasing or not -- to me, a first cameo isn't a big deal.

2022 MARKET REPORT: SUSTAINABLE COLLECTING?

$40,800 for the first cameo appearance of Wolverine? It's not sustainable -- there is only one sale at this level, with the second one $25,500.

To be clear: I don't recommend getting into a 9.8 at the current price levels. When a 9.6 is $12K, I feel you are far better off looking at a high-grade Incredible Hulk #181.

Fear of missing out is understandable. But buying the cameo rather than the full first appearance feels like too much of a compromise to me.

Recent sales:

  • 9.8 $40,800 (LOL)
  • 9.6 $12,000
  • 9.4 $5,520
  • 9.2 $3,840
  • 9.0 $3,600
  • 8.5 $2,025
  • 8.0 $2,200
  • 7.5 $1,500
  • 7.0 $1,250
  • 6.5 $1,020
  • 6.0 $1,330(!!)
  • 5.5 $900
  • 5.0 $1,000
  • 4.5 $1,050
  • 4.0 $660
  • 3.5 $760
  • 3.0 $585
  • 2.5 $600
  • 2.0 $385
  • 1.8 $550 (OMG)
  • 1.5 $525 (OMG!)
  • 1.0 $310

2021 MARKET UPDATE: 180 LOSES OUT TO THE UBER-HOT 181 AGAIN THIS YEAR

Pretty much EVERY grade did better than my chosen 9.2 this year.

Either way, any chance that Hulk 180 was going to stay ahead of 181 was destroyed by the incredible performance of the more senior book.

  • 9.8 $10,200
  • 9.6 $5,000
  • 9.4 $2,450
  • 9.2 $1,500
  • 9.0 $1,900(!!)
  • 8.5 $1,300
  • 8.0 $1,000
  • 7.5 $875
  • 7.0 $790
  • 6.0 $630
  • 5.0 $500
  • 4.0 $380
  • 3.0 $250
  • 2.0 $215

IF YOU BOUGHT MY RECOMMENDED GRADE LAST YEAR:

Here's the bottom line.

  • CGC 9.2 2020 $1,475
  • LAST SALE $1,500
  • PERCENT CHANGE +1%

2020 MARKET UPDATE: FIRST TIME AHEAD OF INCREDIBLE HULK #181 ON THE HOT LIST

Some collectors have started to agitate against Incredible Hulk #181 being the hot Wolverine issue, saying that the true first appearance is #180.

This, along with many people being priced out of the 181 market, has seen big increases in many grades on this book. While 181 has lost ground, 180 has prospered.

Most recent sales by grade.

  • 9.8 $6,900
  • 9.6 $3,150
  • 9.4 $2,000
  • 9.0 $1,225
  • 8.5 $876
  • 8.0 $900(!)
  • 7.0 $550
  • 6.0 $450
  • 5.0 $400
  • 4.5 $400(!)
  • 4.0 $400(!!)
  • 3.5 $325

2019 MARKET UPDATE: 47 PERCENT INCREASE THIS YEAR

Hulk 180 is definitely still hot, but the percentage returns on this book are far lower than on its big sister, Hulk 181, which has doubled in many grades.

The price of entry is less too, in fairness.

I would probably be happy with a 47 percent increase in 12 months. If I were you, I would be very careful about buying into this book now.

There were strong signs that the heat had gone out of #181 until Stan Lee died, when it kicked off again.

I think this book will take a hit before #181 does. Could be time to cash in.

2018 MARKET UPDATE: THE POOR MAN'S HULK #181...

This is a decent book to already own, though we are not super-bullish about buying them at this time. That is, if you're not holding a CGC 9.8 hoping for a miracle. All other grades have seen nice appreciation. 9.8s are DOWN.

We cannot really justify this anomaly, other than saying that maybe people would rather have a CGC 9.4 of Incredible Hulk #181 than a 9.8 of #180...

  • CGC 9.8 $5,500
  • CGC 9.6 $2,000
  • CGC 9.4 $1,180
  • CGC 9.2 $730
  • CGC 9.0 $550
  • CGC 8.5 $415
  • CGC 7.0 $230
  • CGC 6.0 $220

As the sales above show, the market is driving the price of this book higher. It's definitely a very hot comic book.

2017 MARKET UPDATE:

Surprisingly, there hasn't been a sale in CGC 9.8 for over a year, but all other grades above fine are doing very nicely.

Collectors tired of saying "HOW MUCH?!!" when they see 181s selling have been snapping up desirable examples of this book instead. Prices drop far more rapidly as you move down the grades than 181.

  • CGC 9.6: $1,600
  • CGC 9.4 $1,050
  • CGC 9.2 $520
  • CGC 8.5 $385
  • CGC 7.0 $270
  • CGC 6.0 $280(!)

If you cannot afford a decent copy of Incredible Hulk #181 (and let's face it, you probably can't), then the 'poor man's #181' is where your money should go.

Why has this heated up in value? Mainly because Wolverine is still the #1 most popular character to appear in the X-Men comics series, and this is, technically, his actual first appearance. Despite the cameo nature of it.

Let's not delude ourselves, it's still only worth a fraction of the #181 prices, but the gap is slowly closing, especially in higher grades.

For the same price as our recommended 9.2, you would only be able to afford a pretty ragged-looking 4.5 of #181. No contest!

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